Post by Black on Feb 14, 2008 21:01:25 GMT -5
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here is something you might like...
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www.noob.us/entertainment/love-hurts-2/
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Dude
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That was kinda sick
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lol
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my favourite was the chick with the bags
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Haha
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fat fucker cupid...
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You know it.
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Dude
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I got this from my woman
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toxico.co.uk/shop.aspx?g=m&p=1&d=445&s=1
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that shirt?
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Yeah
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The Jesus one
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the jesus 1?
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lol
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Yep
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God, Guts & Guns
Christian Militia
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She thought it was fitting.
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I slapped her and told her to suck it dry.
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hmm...
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meh not something i would wear
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Well you're also not insane.
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the other 1 isn;t bad
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isn't
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with the shotty
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iunno not much into a non-existant guy...
Matt says:
Who cares? He's holding a revolver. And he did exist. Jesus of Nazareth.
It's just amazing to have a picture of the Christian Messiah holding a weapon.
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...
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he didn't exist
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are you religious?
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Take a guess.
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well i know people who aren't religious who think he existed
Matt says:
Fair enough. Why don't you think he did?
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check this out
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since ur american
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this is gunna blow your mind
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I've heard that before.
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zeitgeistmovie.com/
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and get ur parents to watch the last bit
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might save you guys quite a lot of money
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ur dam income tax
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its long though...
Matt says:
Whoa.
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Dude, Zeitgeist?
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yea
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u seen it?
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Yeah.
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and?
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And what?
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well
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the bible is all bullshit... and this video pretty much proves it
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I see no sources cited.
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click sources
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down at the bottom
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show ur parents the income tax bit
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they might be able to buy you a lot more crack after checking that out
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gotta love america...
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gotta get me some Ameros...
Matt says:
None of these sources have page numbers, for one. I don't know where these clips are from, don't know who says all this, who the players are, and it all sounds like anecdotal evidence.
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the 911 bit...
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...
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the government took the films away and will not show them...
Matt says:
Sure they did.
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sounds like they are hiding something to me...
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Sounds like there are conspiracy theorists to me.
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the like 12 warnings from other countries?
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From who?
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"Other counties"?
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russia
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egypt
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britian
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france
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many others
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Where's the proof?
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it the fucking newspapers
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they show in the clips
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go look em up if you wat
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want
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also
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what about the cut core beams of the twin towers?
Matt says:
Because fabricating newspapers is impossible. I won't look up your argument.
What cut core beams?
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at the base of the towers...
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Beams were cut?
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a plane didn't do it
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watch it
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By what, industrial strength scissors?
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skip to the 911 part
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no
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Thermite
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look Thermite up
Matt says:
Oh, thermite?
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cuts through steel like butter
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Where was this done?
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at the base of the twin towers...
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By who, the government?
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well there is proof of them being cut by thermite
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and
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why wouldn't the government do it?
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Because killing your own citizens for kicks is what Cataline did.
Canada says:
what about NORAD
Matt says:
What about NORAD?
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do you think some guys in a cave could make it stand down on 911?
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not a chance in hell
Matt says:
No, but I don't think some guys in a cave could fly airplanes either.
Canada says:
you know all the hijackers had their shit payed for by the US
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So we pretty much shot ourselves in the foot?
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yep
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to get into 2 illegal wars
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also
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if jesus did exist...
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why is he not in any history books?
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the bible is not a history book...
Matt says:
Dude, we're the United fucking States of America. We could go to war if we want, who's gonna stop us? France? Canada?
The Bible is not a history book, no, but if your history book left out one of the world's most important figures, whether or not he is, in fact, the Son of God, is pretty bad.
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ok then where is Bethlham?
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or however you spell it
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Israel somewhere, I imagine.
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bethylham i think
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...
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Bethlehem.
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its a reference to a constalation...
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bethlehem is not on earth...
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So Jesus is an alien?
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Are you a Scientologist?
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...
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no
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jesus is
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Jesus is a Scientologist?
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a personified image given to the sun
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...Jesus is the sun?
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essentially yes
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The sun was killed by the Romans because he was causing too much unrest for the Jews?
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Wow.
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Go, science.
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...
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..!
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they are just stories...
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What are?
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Science?
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the bible and jesus
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they never happened
Matt says:
The bible never happened. Books don't happen.
Jesus didn't happen. People don't happen.
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the flood and the whole story of noah was taken from the egyptain book of the dead
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O RLY?
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every god has the same story...
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Horus... basically the egyptain jesus
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3000 years before jesus...
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same stuff
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born dec 25 same mircles and shit like that
Matt says:
Want to prove all this to me? Because this sounds pretty made up.
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I also don't think the Egyptians had a December.
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...
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so let me get this straight...
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Try.
Canada says:
you say all the other gods are fake but jesus was real?
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what proof is there that jesus is real?
Matt says:
The other gods are all gods of the people who believe in them. Jesus was a person. Whether or not he's the Son of God is up to the individual.
Canada says:
if he could walk on water, raise the dead and other shit why did he not make it into ONE history book?
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there were many historians back then
Matt says:
There were? Cite that, would you?
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use the dam soruces page
Matt says:
I'm not gonna look up your argument for you on a biased website, dude.
If Jesus did walk on water and raise the dead, that's not up to me to decide for you.
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u honestly believe that an invisible guy in the sky is watching us?
Matt says:
No. Who the hell said I did?
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well
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people who think jesus is real...
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are usually religious
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and
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well you can connect the dots...
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Jesus was real. Iesu the Nazarine was a Jew who was crucified by the Romans after being pressured by the Jewish High Priests(Pharisees, Sadducees) because he was going against their teachings.
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...
Matt says:
Take a theology class if you want to talk about it.
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explain this then...
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I'll try.
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IF he was real...
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Aye?
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then why does everyone in the bible seem to fall into place with astrology?
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12 constalations.... 12 deciples
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when he was dead for 3 days
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that is the sun stops moving south...
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on dec 21
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to dec 24
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then
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the 3 kings...
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or the 3 brightest stars in orions belt
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and the brightest star in the sky
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all point to where the sun will rise on dec 25th
Matt says:
There are more than 12 constellations.
He was dead for two days, I believe, died on Good Friday, rose on Easter Sunday. Not in December, by my count.
3 isn't an uncommon number.
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3 days
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and
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easter
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is simply when the days offically are longer then the night
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thats easter
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have you read the bible?
Matt says:
I've taken a class on it.
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Jesus died around Easter, and was born around Easter as well. They decided to move his birth to December 25, because that's the darkest time of the year, and remembering his death was more important than celebrating his birth.
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all of the special things that christanity has are lifted from egypt that was like 3000 years before jesus
Matt says:
Like what?
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easter
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communion
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circumsicion
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many others
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christmas 2
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hold on ill get the list
Matt says:
Circumcision is the Jews. I just explained Christmas to you, people need a festival of light to remind them that things aren't going to be dark forever. Hannukkah, Kwanzaa, Christmas.
Matt says:
No idea where you get communion and Easter being Egyptian from.
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hold on a sec
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heres the list
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baptism
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afterlife
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final judgement
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virgin birth
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death and resirrection
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crucifixion
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ark of covenant
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Baptism was being done before Jesus. Afterlife is a long concept. Judgement is a long term concept. Cite the virgin birth shenaniganry. Necromancy. Roman punishment. JEWS.
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circumcision
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JEWS.
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saviors
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Mankind.
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holy communion
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Cite that.
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great flood
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easter
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christmas
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passover
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and a lot more
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Jesus titty fucking Christ, you won't bend on this, will you?
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they were all taken from egyptian ideas
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I doubt that heavily.
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because religion is a load of shit
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he didn't exist
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there is a fucking prototype of him
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in the bible
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IN THE BIBLE!
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Chapter and verse, please.
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hold on a sec
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ill find it
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Good.
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oh heres a little something...
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the 10 commandments
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are lifted from the egyptain book of the dead
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translated of course
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with a little spin on them....
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ok
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it says here
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in the old testament
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that a guy named Joseph
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had the same fucking shit as jesus...
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THE SAME STUFF
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except
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he was sold for 20 pieces of silver
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jesus was sold for 30
Matt says:
Where does it say this?
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iunno all it says is old testament and new testament
Matt says:
Then that's shitty proof.
Canada says:
did u get a friend request from Chapstickman?
Matt says:
Nah, why?
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he remembers you from halo
Matt says:
That's a bit creepy.
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yea
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I haven't checked, anyway.
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ok heres a little something
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Oh, boy.
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there is NO document that is non religious from the time of jesus's susposed lifetime that says he lived...
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all there is
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is the bible...
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thats shitty proof
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thats not even proof
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thats an idea...
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a poorly constructed 1 at that
Matt says:
Wait, so saying Jesus lived because the primary sources of his life isn't proof, but saying some guy who's allegedly in the bible was just like him is proof he's not real?
Matt says:
Do you know what logic is?
Canada says:
when was the bible written?
Matt says:
Which part?
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the entire thing
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what we call the bible today
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The Old Testament before Jesus of Nazareth was born. The New Testament was afterwards. Then the Church butchered it.
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...
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ok
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Okay?
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the old testament was before he was born
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right?
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simple yes or no...
Matt says:
Yes. It's the Torah, if I remember right.
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ok
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so then
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how did a guy in the old testament have the same attritubutes as jesus if the old testament was written before he was born?
Matt says:
What guy in the Old Testament?
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hmm?
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Joseph
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Joseph who?
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iunno all it says is Joseph
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EXACTLY
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Christ isn't even a name
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its a title
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I know that.
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Messiag.
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*Messiah.
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it means annointed
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The Messiah, the one who is anointed.
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so...
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there were 4 historians who lived that made reference to jesus...
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but
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they only refer to him as Christ or chrestus
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which means annointed
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so
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no direct reference to jesus...
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and they only had a few sentences on him...
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the other has been proven false
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yes
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yet
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it is still sited as truth...
Matt says:
You said earlier there were no historians that recorded Jesus. Now you're saying there were four?
Dude, stop fucking trying so hard.
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no thats not what i said
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i said
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that yes there were no historians that recorded him in a non religious document...
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but
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there are 4
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that refer to christ or chrestus
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Who?
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Who are they?
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which means annoited
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hold on ill get there names
Matt says:
Take it easy, don't want to hurt yourself.
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fuck their names are fucked
Matt says:
Oh, yeah, sure.
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wanna bet?
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That their names are fucked?
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..Yes.
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I do.
Canada says:
open the video
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go to about 32:45
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he will say their names
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u there yet?
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watch the 911 bit
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actually watch it
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here answer this then about 911
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IF
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and that is a big IF
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if it was a plane that hit the pentagon
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then why
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did the governent cover the entire lawn and other surronding areas by the pentagon in dirt...
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why?
Matt says:
Dude, you just proved a point of yours wrong. Pliny the Younger, Sutonious, and Tacitus all referred to the man that everyone was calling the Messiah. Which was Jesus of Nazareth?
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The government covered the lawn and surrounding areas of dirt?
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no
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Says who?
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watch it
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ill get the time
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Good God, you gave me the time, I watched it. It says that there were no historians talking about Jesus, then it says there were.
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Contradiction, dude.
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no
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not that time
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and how?
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its not the messiah
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its annointed
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and
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guess what
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they were defenders of the faith...
Matt says:
You're a conspiracy theorist?
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No kidding.
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they were part of it
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so...
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why did no other historians mention it?
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Why is everyone who is religious *wrong*?
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they weren't the only 4...
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well
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because
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its false...
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and
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your only helping them out...
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and\
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because of religion
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many wars and deaths have been caused that could have been avioded...
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avoided...
Matt says:
...You really don't have any idea what logic is, do you?
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People fight over territory and use religion as an excuse.
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then inform me black...
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sigh...
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religion is a tool
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_%28disambiguation%29
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just like the media
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lol wikipedia as truth?
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are u serious?
Matt says:
No, you dolt, wikipedia as a starting point.
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a publicly editied encyclopedia
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on 911 the head of the paky inteligence was eating breakfeast in the whitehouse with government officals... and he gave the lead high jacker 100k for 911
Matt says:
Citation needed.
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plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-logic/
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There's a better page on logic for you.
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You need it.
Canada says:
what is illogical about my argument?
Matt says:
The contradictions, the lack of proof.
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The assumptions.
Canada says:
assumption?
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what assumption?
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All of them. The ones without citations.
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how many towers collapased on 911?
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Fuck if I know. At least two.
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3 did
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and
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the third 1
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was not
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WAS NOT hit by a plane...
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Which building was it that collapsed in addition to the World Trade Towers?
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tower 7
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or building 7
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and
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it was even in the 911 commision
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wasn't
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Do you know what happens when a plane hits a building and explodes?
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and
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yes
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Debris everywhere.
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the building catches fire
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no
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No?
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There's no debris after an explosion?
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the building was designed to be able to take that impact
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the god dam archetects say that
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how built the WTC
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who
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and
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AND
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if a plane hit it
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why did it fall down at free fall speed?
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and
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it fell down perfectly straight
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like
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A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION
Matt says:
Proof for all these claims?
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watch the videos
Matt says:
What videos?
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Zeitgeist?
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the dam thing i sent you
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and
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its all over youtube
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watch the actual tower collapse
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then
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if you read the 911 comission
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it says the offical theory was a pan cake theory
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which is
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the beams while not being melted by the crash
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were heated up enough to be weakened
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and that made the floors come down
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which then collapsed the building
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niw
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now
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watch the video of the towers come down...
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by that theory
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would you not expect to see the main beams that hold the floors together still stanind 100s of feet into the air?
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since only the floors fell
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but
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they are gone
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and you wanna know why?
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cuz they were cut
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go to 45:00 in the movie
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it talks about the theory
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also
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the floors that were susposed to be piled up ontop of each other would be there right?
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down at the bottom
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but
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were they there?
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nope
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911 was an inside job
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Oh, yeah. I can see all your wild conspiracy theory is truth, now.
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well
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lets see
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NORAD
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NORAD!
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in 2000
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in two thousand
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they tested norad
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and
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they tested norad
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and
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hit at 67 intercepts
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of high jackings
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and
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HIT AT SIXTY FUCKING SEVEN INTERCEPTS
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OF HI JACKING
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AND
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its got all of them
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67/67
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its got all of them
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now
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100%
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on 911
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nao
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it failed 4 times
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on nine won won
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in 1 day
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something wrong there?
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it fail'd four times
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in one day
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SOMETHING MUST BE WRONG
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NORAD PASSED THE TEST, SO IT MUST ALWAYS WORK
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100%
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guess who was in charge of NORAD at the time...
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Jesus Christ?
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HE'S IN ON IT TOO?
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Dick Cheny
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Isn't he the Vice President?
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yep
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The VP is in charge of NORAD?
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Since when?
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no
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No?
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he was in control of it at the time
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Why?
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in the bunker underneath the whitehouse
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...What?
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Why was he under a bunker?
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in a bunker under the whitehouse
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Why was he in a bunker under the whitehouse?
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iunno why he was there
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maybe
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just maybe
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BECAUSE NORAD WOULD HAVE STOPPED 911?
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He was in a bunker to stop Norad?
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My God.
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BUNKERS ARE EVIL
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are you online?
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WE NEED TO SEND THEM TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS
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No, I'm not online.
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I'm actually asleep.
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remember the bombings in london?
Matt says:
Nope.
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at the train station?
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Nope.
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...
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gotta love how informed America is...
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Gotta love all these claims you're making.
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...
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got any proof to the otherwise?
Matt says:
No, but I'm not making the argument. You are. The burden of proof is on you.
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i think i know what happened here...
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Keyword: think
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you watched this video with a set mind already and denouced everything here as false...
Matt says:
Are you high? Of course I didn't watch the video.
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well
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MAYBE YOU SHOULD!
Matt says:
Maybe you should STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU HEAR, LIKE WHEN I SAID I WATCHED THE VIDEO. I LIED.
Matt says:
THE INTERNET DOES THAT.
here is something you might like...
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www.noob.us/entertainment/love-hurts-2/
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Dude
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That was kinda sick
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lol
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my favourite was the chick with the bags
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Haha
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fat fucker cupid...
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You know it.
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Dude
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I got this from my woman
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toxico.co.uk/shop.aspx?g=m&p=1&d=445&s=1
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that shirt?
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Yeah
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The Jesus one
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the jesus 1?
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lol
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Yep
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God, Guts & Guns
Christian Militia
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She thought it was fitting.
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I slapped her and told her to suck it dry.
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hmm...
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meh not something i would wear
Matt says:
Well you're also not insane.
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the other 1 isn;t bad
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isn't
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with the shotty
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iunno not much into a non-existant guy...
Matt says:
Who cares? He's holding a revolver. And he did exist. Jesus of Nazareth.
It's just amazing to have a picture of the Christian Messiah holding a weapon.
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...
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he didn't exist
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are you religious?
Matt says:
Take a guess.
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well i know people who aren't religious who think he existed
Matt says:
Fair enough. Why don't you think he did?
Canada says:
check this out
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since ur american
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this is gunna blow your mind
Matt says:
I've heard that before.
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zeitgeistmovie.com/
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and get ur parents to watch the last bit
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might save you guys quite a lot of money
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ur dam income tax
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its long though...
Matt says:
Whoa.
Matt says:
Dude, Zeitgeist?
Canada says:
yea
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u seen it?
Matt says:
Yeah.
Canada says:
and?
Matt says:
And what?
Canada says:
well
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the bible is all bullshit... and this video pretty much proves it
Matt says:
I see no sources cited.
Canada says:
click sources
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down at the bottom
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show ur parents the income tax bit
Canada says:
they might be able to buy you a lot more crack after checking that out
Canada says:
gotta love america...
Canada says:
gotta get me some Ameros...
Matt says:
None of these sources have page numbers, for one. I don't know where these clips are from, don't know who says all this, who the players are, and it all sounds like anecdotal evidence.
Canada says:
the 911 bit...
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...
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the government took the films away and will not show them...
Matt says:
Sure they did.
Canada says:
sounds like they are hiding something to me...
Matt says:
Sounds like there are conspiracy theorists to me.
Canada says:
the like 12 warnings from other countries?
Matt says:
From who?
Matt says:
"Other counties"?
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russia
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egypt
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britian
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france
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many others
Matt says:
Where's the proof?
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it the fucking newspapers
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they show in the clips
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go look em up if you wat
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want
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also
Canada says:
what about the cut core beams of the twin towers?
Matt says:
Because fabricating newspapers is impossible. I won't look up your argument.
What cut core beams?
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at the base of the towers...
Matt says:
Beams were cut?
Canada says:
a plane didn't do it
Canada says:
watch it
Matt says:
By what, industrial strength scissors?
Canada says:
skip to the 911 part
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no
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Thermite
Canada says:
look Thermite up
Matt says:
Oh, thermite?
Canada says:
cuts through steel like butter
Matt says:
Where was this done?
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at the base of the twin towers...
Matt says:
By who, the government?
Canada says:
well there is proof of them being cut by thermite
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and
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why wouldn't the government do it?
Matt says:
Because killing your own citizens for kicks is what Cataline did.
Canada says:
what about NORAD
Matt says:
What about NORAD?
Canada says:
do you think some guys in a cave could make it stand down on 911?
Canada says:
not a chance in hell
Matt says:
No, but I don't think some guys in a cave could fly airplanes either.
Canada says:
you know all the hijackers had their shit payed for by the US
Matt says:
So we pretty much shot ourselves in the foot?
Canada says:
yep
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to get into 2 illegal wars
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also
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if jesus did exist...
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why is he not in any history books?
Canada says:
the bible is not a history book...
Matt says:
Dude, we're the United fucking States of America. We could go to war if we want, who's gonna stop us? France? Canada?
The Bible is not a history book, no, but if your history book left out one of the world's most important figures, whether or not he is, in fact, the Son of God, is pretty bad.
Canada says:
ok then where is Bethlham?
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or however you spell it
Matt says:
Israel somewhere, I imagine.
Canada says:
bethylham i think
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...
Matt says:
Bethlehem.
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its a reference to a constalation...
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bethlehem is not on earth...
Matt says:
So Jesus is an alien?
Matt says:
Are you a Scientologist?
Canada says:
...
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no
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jesus is
Matt says:
Jesus is a Scientologist?
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a personified image given to the sun
Matt says:
...Jesus is the sun?
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essentially yes
Matt says:
The sun was killed by the Romans because he was causing too much unrest for the Jews?
Matt says:
Wow.
Matt says:
Go, science.
Canada says:
...
Matt says:
..!
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they are just stories...
Matt says:
What are?
Matt says:
Science?
Canada says:
the bible and jesus
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they never happened
Matt says:
The bible never happened. Books don't happen.
Jesus didn't happen. People don't happen.
Canada says:
the flood and the whole story of noah was taken from the egyptain book of the dead
Matt says:
O RLY?
Canada says:
every god has the same story...
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Horus... basically the egyptain jesus
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3000 years before jesus...
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same stuff
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born dec 25 same mircles and shit like that
Matt says:
Want to prove all this to me? Because this sounds pretty made up.
Matt says:
I also don't think the Egyptians had a December.
Canada says:
...
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so let me get this straight...
Matt says:
Try.
Canada says:
you say all the other gods are fake but jesus was real?
Canada says:
what proof is there that jesus is real?
Matt says:
The other gods are all gods of the people who believe in them. Jesus was a person. Whether or not he's the Son of God is up to the individual.
Canada says:
if he could walk on water, raise the dead and other shit why did he not make it into ONE history book?
Canada says:
there were many historians back then
Matt says:
There were? Cite that, would you?
Canada says:
use the dam soruces page
Matt says:
I'm not gonna look up your argument for you on a biased website, dude.
If Jesus did walk on water and raise the dead, that's not up to me to decide for you.
Canada says:
u honestly believe that an invisible guy in the sky is watching us?
Matt says:
No. Who the hell said I did?
Canada says:
well
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people who think jesus is real...
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are usually religious
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and
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well you can connect the dots...
Matt says:
Jesus was real. Iesu the Nazarine was a Jew who was crucified by the Romans after being pressured by the Jewish High Priests(Pharisees, Sadducees) because he was going against their teachings.
Canada says:
...
Matt says:
Take a theology class if you want to talk about it.
Canada says:
explain this then...
Matt says:
I'll try.
Canada says:
IF he was real...
Matt says:
Aye?
Canada says:
then why does everyone in the bible seem to fall into place with astrology?
Canada says:
12 constalations.... 12 deciples
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when he was dead for 3 days
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that is the sun stops moving south...
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on dec 21
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to dec 24
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then
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the 3 kings...
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or the 3 brightest stars in orions belt
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and the brightest star in the sky
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all point to where the sun will rise on dec 25th
Matt says:
There are more than 12 constellations.
He was dead for two days, I believe, died on Good Friday, rose on Easter Sunday. Not in December, by my count.
3 isn't an uncommon number.
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3 days
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and
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easter
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is simply when the days offically are longer then the night
Canada says:
thats easter
Canada says:
have you read the bible?
Matt says:
I've taken a class on it.
Matt says:
Jesus died around Easter, and was born around Easter as well. They decided to move his birth to December 25, because that's the darkest time of the year, and remembering his death was more important than celebrating his birth.
Canada says:
all of the special things that christanity has are lifted from egypt that was like 3000 years before jesus
Matt says:
Like what?
Canada says:
easter
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communion
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circumsicion
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many others
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christmas 2
Canada says:
hold on ill get the list
Matt says:
Circumcision is the Jews. I just explained Christmas to you, people need a festival of light to remind them that things aren't going to be dark forever. Hannukkah, Kwanzaa, Christmas.
Matt says:
No idea where you get communion and Easter being Egyptian from.
Canada says:
hold on a sec
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heres the list
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baptism
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afterlife
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final judgement
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virgin birth
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death and resirrection
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crucifixion
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ark of covenant
Matt says:
Baptism was being done before Jesus. Afterlife is a long concept. Judgement is a long term concept. Cite the virgin birth shenaniganry. Necromancy. Roman punishment. JEWS.
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circumcision
Matt says:
JEWS.
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saviors
Matt says:
Mankind.
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holy communion
Matt says:
Cite that.
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great flood
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easter
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christmas
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passover
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and a lot more
Matt says:
Jesus titty fucking Christ, you won't bend on this, will you?
Canada says:
they were all taken from egyptian ideas
Matt says:
I doubt that heavily.
Canada says:
because religion is a load of shit
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he didn't exist
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there is a fucking prototype of him
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in the bible
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IN THE BIBLE!
Matt says:
Chapter and verse, please.
Canada says:
hold on a sec
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ill find it
Matt says:
Good.
Canada says:
oh heres a little something...
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the 10 commandments
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are lifted from the egyptain book of the dead
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translated of course
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with a little spin on them....
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ok
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it says here
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in the old testament
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that a guy named Joseph
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had the same fucking shit as jesus...
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THE SAME STUFF
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except
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he was sold for 20 pieces of silver
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jesus was sold for 30
Matt says:
Where does it say this?
Canada says:
iunno all it says is old testament and new testament
Matt says:
Then that's shitty proof.
Canada says:
did u get a friend request from Chapstickman?
Matt says:
Nah, why?
Canada says:
he remembers you from halo
Matt says:
That's a bit creepy.
Canada says:
yea
Matt says:
I haven't checked, anyway.
Canada says:
ok heres a little something
Matt says:
Oh, boy.
Canada says:
there is NO document that is non religious from the time of jesus's susposed lifetime that says he lived...
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all there is
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is the bible...
Canada says:
thats shitty proof
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thats not even proof
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thats an idea...
Canada says:
a poorly constructed 1 at that
Matt says:
Wait, so saying Jesus lived because the primary sources of his life isn't proof, but saying some guy who's allegedly in the bible was just like him is proof he's not real?
Matt says:
Do you know what logic is?
Canada says:
when was the bible written?
Matt says:
Which part?
Canada says:
the entire thing
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what we call the bible today
Matt says:
The Old Testament before Jesus of Nazareth was born. The New Testament was afterwards. Then the Church butchered it.
Canada says:
...
Canada says:
ok
Matt says:
Okay?
Canada says:
the old testament was before he was born
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right?
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simple yes or no...
Matt says:
Yes. It's the Torah, if I remember right.
Canada says:
ok
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so then
Canada says:
how did a guy in the old testament have the same attritubutes as jesus if the old testament was written before he was born?
Matt says:
What guy in the Old Testament?
Canada says:
hmm?
Canada says:
Joseph
Matt says:
Joseph who?
Canada says:
iunno all it says is Joseph
Matt says:
EXACTLY
Canada says:
Christ isn't even a name
Canada says:
its a title
Matt says:
I know that.
Matt says:
Messiag.
Matt says:
*Messiah.
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it means annointed
Matt says:
The Messiah, the one who is anointed.
Canada says:
so...
Canada says:
there were 4 historians who lived that made reference to jesus...
Canada says:
but
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they only refer to him as Christ or chrestus
Canada says:
which means annointed
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so
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no direct reference to jesus...
Canada says:
and they only had a few sentences on him...
Canada says:
the other has been proven false
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yes
Canada says:
yet
Canada says:
it is still sited as truth...
Matt says:
You said earlier there were no historians that recorded Jesus. Now you're saying there were four?
Dude, stop fucking trying so hard.
Canada says:
no thats not what i said
Canada says:
i said
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that yes there were no historians that recorded him in a non religious document...
Canada says:
but
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there are 4
Canada says:
that refer to christ or chrestus
Matt says:
Who?
Matt says:
Who are they?
Canada says:
which means annoited
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hold on ill get there names
Matt says:
Take it easy, don't want to hurt yourself.
Canada says:
fuck their names are fucked
Matt says:
Oh, yeah, sure.
Canada says:
wanna bet?
Matt says:
That their names are fucked?
Matt says:
..Yes.
Matt says:
I do.
Canada says:
open the video
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go to about 32:45
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he will say their names
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u there yet?
Canada says:
watch the 911 bit
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actually watch it
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here answer this then about 911
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IF
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and that is a big IF
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if it was a plane that hit the pentagon
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then why
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did the governent cover the entire lawn and other surronding areas by the pentagon in dirt...
Canada says:
why?
Matt says:
Dude, you just proved a point of yours wrong. Pliny the Younger, Sutonious, and Tacitus all referred to the man that everyone was calling the Messiah. Which was Jesus of Nazareth?
Matt says:
The government covered the lawn and surrounding areas of dirt?
Canada says:
no
Matt says:
Says who?
Canada says:
watch it
Canada says:
ill get the time
Matt says:
Good God, you gave me the time, I watched it. It says that there were no historians talking about Jesus, then it says there were.
Matt says:
Contradiction, dude.
Canada says:
no
Canada says:
not that time
Canada says:
and how?
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its not the messiah
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its annointed
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and
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guess what
Canada says:
they were defenders of the faith...
Matt says:
You're a conspiracy theorist?
Matt says:
No kidding.
Canada says:
they were part of it
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so...
Canada says:
why did no other historians mention it?
Matt says:
Why is everyone who is religious *wrong*?
Canada says:
they weren't the only 4...
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well
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because
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its false...
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and
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your only helping them out...
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and\
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because of religion
Canada says:
many wars and deaths have been caused that could have been avioded...
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avoided...
Matt says:
...You really don't have any idea what logic is, do you?
Matt says:
People fight over territory and use religion as an excuse.
Canada says:
then inform me black...
Canada says:
sigh...
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religion is a tool
Matt says:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_%28disambiguation%29
Canada says:
just like the media
Canada says:
lol wikipedia as truth?
Canada says:
are u serious?
Matt says:
No, you dolt, wikipedia as a starting point.
Canada says:
a publicly editied encyclopedia
Canada says:
on 911 the head of the paky inteligence was eating breakfeast in the whitehouse with government officals... and he gave the lead high jacker 100k for 911
Matt says:
Citation needed.
Matt says:
plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-logic/
Matt says:
There's a better page on logic for you.
Matt says:
You need it.
Canada says:
what is illogical about my argument?
Matt says:
The contradictions, the lack of proof.
Matt says:
The assumptions.
Canada says:
assumption?
Canada says:
what assumption?
Matt says:
All of them. The ones without citations.
Canada says:
how many towers collapased on 911?
Matt says:
Fuck if I know. At least two.
Canada says:
3 did
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and
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the third 1
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was not
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WAS NOT hit by a plane...
Matt says:
Which building was it that collapsed in addition to the World Trade Towers?
Canada says:
tower 7
Canada says:
or building 7
Canada says:
and
Canada says:
it was even in the 911 commision
Canada says:
wasn't
Matt says:
Do you know what happens when a plane hits a building and explodes?
Canada says:
and
Canada says:
yes
Matt says:
Debris everywhere.
Canada says:
the building catches fire
Canada says:
no
Matt says:
No?
Matt says:
There's no debris after an explosion?
Canada says:
the building was designed to be able to take that impact
Canada says:
the god dam archetects say that
Canada says:
how built the WTC
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who
Canada says:
and
Canada says:
AND
Canada says:
if a plane hit it
Canada says:
why did it fall down at free fall speed?
Canada says:
and
Canada says:
it fell down perfectly straight
Canada says:
like
Canada says:
A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION
Matt says:
Proof for all these claims?
Canada says:
watch the videos
Matt says:
What videos?
Matt says:
Zeitgeist?
Canada says:
the dam thing i sent you
Canada says:
and
Canada says:
its all over youtube
Canada says:
watch the actual tower collapse
Canada says:
then
Canada says:
if you read the 911 comission
Canada says:
it says the offical theory was a pan cake theory
Canada says:
which is
Canada says:
the beams while not being melted by the crash
Canada says:
were heated up enough to be weakened
Canada says:
and that made the floors come down
Canada says:
which then collapsed the building
Canada says:
niw
Canada says:
now
Canada says:
watch the video of the towers come down...
Canada says:
by that theory
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would you not expect to see the main beams that hold the floors together still stanind 100s of feet into the air?
Canada says:
since only the floors fell
Canada says:
but
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they are gone
Canada says:
and you wanna know why?
Canada says:
cuz they were cut
Canada says:
go to 45:00 in the movie
Canada says:
it talks about the theory
Canada says:
also
Canada says:
the floors that were susposed to be piled up ontop of each other would be there right?
Canada says:
down at the bottom
Canada says:
but
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were they there?
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nope
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911 was an inside job
Matt says:
Oh, yeah. I can see all your wild conspiracy theory is truth, now.
Canada says:
well
Canada says:
lets see
Canada says:
NORAD
Matt says:
NORAD!
Canada says:
in 2000
Matt says:
in two thousand
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they tested norad
Canada says:
and
Matt says:
they tested norad
Matt says:
and
Canada says:
hit at 67 intercepts
Canada says:
of high jackings
Canada says:
and
Matt says:
HIT AT SIXTY FUCKING SEVEN INTERCEPTS
Matt says:
OF HI JACKING
Matt says:
AND
Canada says:
its got all of them
Canada says:
67/67
Matt says:
its got all of them
Canada says:
now
Matt says:
100%
Canada says:
on 911
Matt says:
nao
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it failed 4 times
Matt says:
on nine won won
Canada says:
in 1 day
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something wrong there?
Matt says:
it fail'd four times
Matt says:
in one day
Matt says:
SOMETHING MUST BE WRONG
Matt says:
NORAD PASSED THE TEST, SO IT MUST ALWAYS WORK
Matt says:
100%
Canada says:
guess who was in charge of NORAD at the time...
Matt says:
Jesus Christ?
Matt says:
HE'S IN ON IT TOO?
Canada says:
Dick Cheny
Matt says:
Isn't he the Vice President?
Canada says:
yep
Matt says:
The VP is in charge of NORAD?
Matt says:
Since when?
Canada says:
no
Matt says:
No?
Canada says:
he was in control of it at the time
Matt says:
Why?
Canada says:
in the bunker underneath the whitehouse
Matt says:
...What?
Matt says:
Why was he under a bunker?
Canada says:
in a bunker under the whitehouse
Matt says:
Why was he in a bunker under the whitehouse?
Canada says:
iunno why he was there
Canada says:
maybe
Canada says:
just maybe
Canada says:
BECAUSE NORAD WOULD HAVE STOPPED 911?
Matt says:
He was in a bunker to stop Norad?
Matt says:
My God.
Matt says:
BUNKERS ARE EVIL
Canada says:
are you online?
Matt says:
WE NEED TO SEND THEM TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS
Matt says:
No, I'm not online.
Matt says:
I'm actually asleep.
Canada says:
remember the bombings in london?
Matt says:
Nope.
Canada says:
at the train station?
Matt says:
Nope.
Canada says:
...
Canada says:
gotta love how informed America is...
Matt says:
Gotta love all these claims you're making.
Canada says:
...
Canada says:
got any proof to the otherwise?
Matt says:
No, but I'm not making the argument. You are. The burden of proof is on you.
Canada says:
i think i know what happened here...
Matt says:
Keyword: think
Canada says:
you watched this video with a set mind already and denouced everything here as false...
Matt says:
Are you high? Of course I didn't watch the video.
Canada says:
well
Canada says:
MAYBE YOU SHOULD!
Matt says:
Maybe you should STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU HEAR, LIKE WHEN I SAID I WATCHED THE VIDEO. I LIED.
Matt says:
THE INTERNET DOES THAT.